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		By: John Gottschalk		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-77853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Gottschalk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2021 02:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-48479&quot;&gt;Ramon Hamm&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually Venn diagrams can be very useful in exploring combinations you haven&#039;t considered before.

To use an example: Pokemon!

Say you have fire, psychic and flying types, and you are making new pokemon for a new game. You might want to make some new combinations that haven&#039;t existed before. You take all the pokemon, put them in a Venn diagram with these 3 categories of types: Moltres is flying and fire, easy. But are there Psychic Flying pokemon? (turns out yes - Xatu) Or Psychic Fire pokemon? (turns out yes, Delphox)

In this way you can find options for combinations you haven&#039;t had before. (And I&#039;m pretty sure this happens regularly in Pokemon every time they add a new category of type).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-48479">Ramon Hamm</a>.</p>
<p>Actually Venn diagrams can be very useful in exploring combinations you haven&#8217;t considered before.</p>
<p>To use an example: Pokemon!</p>
<p>Say you have fire, psychic and flying types, and you are making new pokemon for a new game. You might want to make some new combinations that haven&#8217;t existed before. You take all the pokemon, put them in a Venn diagram with these 3 categories of types: Moltres is flying and fire, easy. But are there Psychic Flying pokemon? (turns out yes &#8211; Xatu) Or Psychic Fire pokemon? (turns out yes, Delphox)</p>
<p>In this way you can find options for combinations you haven&#8217;t had before. (And I&#8217;m pretty sure this happens regularly in Pokemon every time they add a new category of type).</p>
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		By: Karma Peny		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-51598</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karma Peny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2017 13:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All we really need is a Venn diagram that shows &quot;all possible logical relationships that could ever exist&quot; and where we place some kind of &#039;currently empty&#039; symbol inside any area that we think is currently empty in the real world.

This would make all Euler diagrams redundant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All we really need is a Venn diagram that shows &#8220;all possible logical relationships that could ever exist&#8221; and where we place some kind of &#8216;currently empty&#8217; symbol inside any area that we think is currently empty in the real world.</p>
<p>This would make all Euler diagrams redundant.</p>
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		By: Karma Peny		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-51597</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karma Peny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2017 13:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In your first example, the Venn diagram is wrong (based on your definition) because it is not logically possible for anything to go into the intersection. An animal can be either a bird or a mammal but it is not logically possible for it to be both.

You could correct this example by changing &#039;mammals&#039; to &#039;creatures with antlers&#039;. Then if in the future someone were to breed a bird with antlers, it would then make the Euler diagram incorrect.

Your second example lacks clarity. I assume your &#039;red card&#039; and &#039;black card&#039; classifications mean the colour of the suit symbol on the card (note that J, Q and K cards often contain many colours).

I wondered about creating a new suit with a mixture of red and black. If your classification means the colour of any part of the suit symbol then your example is correct.

However, if &#039;red card&#039; means an all-red suit symbol then such a card could not go in the intersection because it cannot go in the &#039;red&#039; set or in the &#039;black&#039; set as it is neither. A card cannot be all-red and all-black at the same time.

An earlier comment said that a Venn diagram was useless because it contains info that does not exist in the real world. I think this view was formed from inspection of your examples. A Venn diagram that shows &quot;all possible logical relationships that could ever exist&quot; does contain valuable information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your first example, the Venn diagram is wrong (based on your definition) because it is not logically possible for anything to go into the intersection. An animal can be either a bird or a mammal but it is not logically possible for it to be both.</p>
<p>You could correct this example by changing &#8216;mammals&#8217; to &#8216;creatures with antlers&#8217;. Then if in the future someone were to breed a bird with antlers, it would then make the Euler diagram incorrect.</p>
<p>Your second example lacks clarity. I assume your &#8216;red card&#8217; and &#8216;black card&#8217; classifications mean the colour of the suit symbol on the card (note that J, Q and K cards often contain many colours).</p>
<p>I wondered about creating a new suit with a mixture of red and black. If your classification means the colour of any part of the suit symbol then your example is correct.</p>
<p>However, if &#8216;red card&#8217; means an all-red suit symbol then such a card could not go in the intersection because it cannot go in the &#8216;red&#8217; set or in the &#8216;black&#8217; set as it is neither. A card cannot be all-red and all-black at the same time.</p>
<p>An earlier comment said that a Venn diagram was useless because it contains info that does not exist in the real world. I think this view was formed from inspection of your examples. A Venn diagram that shows &#8220;all possible logical relationships that could ever exist&#8221; does contain valuable information.</p>
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		By: Ramon Hamm		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-48479</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ramon Hamm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2016 19:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So a Venn diagram is just a poorly made, useless Euler diagram. A diagram that contains &quot;info&quot; that doesn&#039;t exist in the real world is a useless diagram. My Euler diagram shows a big circle that says &quot;Useful diagrams&quot;, taking up this whole circle is another circle saying: &quot;Euler diagram&quot;, outside of these is a circle called &quot;Useless diagrams&quot; with a circle inside saying &quot;Venn diagrams&quot;, it does not overlap with the &quot;Useful diagrams&quot; circle, tah dah!
Rambo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a Venn diagram is just a poorly made, useless Euler diagram. A diagram that contains &#8220;info&#8221; that doesn&#8217;t exist in the real world is a useless diagram. My Euler diagram shows a big circle that says &#8220;Useful diagrams&#8221;, taking up this whole circle is another circle saying: &#8220;Euler diagram&#8221;, outside of these is a circle called &#8220;Useless diagrams&#8221; with a circle inside saying &#8220;Venn diagrams&#8221;, it does not overlap with the &#8220;Useful diagrams&#8221; circle, tah dah!<br />
Rambo</p>
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		By: Johnson		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-47473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can you please help me solve these questions:

(1)Let U be the students in the class today. define a subset A of U based on some quality or characteristic. (something other than gender). clearly define A in words. You do not need to place people in set A by name. let F= females and M= males.

 solve:
 A=?,
 A&#039;=?,  
AnF=?
F&#039;=?, 
MUF=?, 
MnF=?,
 n(U)=?, 
n(F)=?, 
n(M)=?.I need tour help with these question:

(2) Make up a real world example where ACBCU. define A, B, and U and draw an euler diagram.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please help me solve these questions:</p>
<p>(1)Let U be the students in the class today. define a subset A of U based on some quality or characteristic. (something other than gender). clearly define A in words. You do not need to place people in set A by name. let F= females and M= males.</p>
<p> solve:<br />
 A=?,<br />
 A&#8217;=?,  <br />
AnF=?<br />
F&#8217;=?, <br />
MUF=?, <br />
MnF=?,<br />
 n(U)=?, <br />
n(F)=?, <br />
n(M)=?.I need tour help with these question:</p>
<p>(2) Make up a real world example where ACBCU. define A, B, and U and draw an euler diagram.</p>
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		By: Jajat		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-45066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jajat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 00:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still confused, but I will try hard to learn. Thanks bro, have provided information and a little bit about this picture]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still confused, but I will try hard to learn. Thanks bro, have provided information and a little bit about this picture</p>
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		By: Rajesh		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-42827</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rajesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some A are B,No B are C...concl: All C being A is possibility]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some A are B,No B are C&#8230;concl: All C being A is possibility</p>
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		By: Rajesh		</title>
		<link>https://creately.com/blog/diagrams/venn-diagrams-vs-euler-diagrams/#comment-42826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rajesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello sir having a doubt pls explain it for me....stmt:some A are B,All B are C....CON:All A being C is the possibility........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello sir having a doubt pls explain it for me&#8230;.stmt:some A are B,All B are C&#8230;.CON:All A being C is the possibility&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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